The Power of Real Food with Connie Nightingale

Today we're joined by Connie Nightingale, a certified nutritionist, personal trainer and the "Mom" behind The Fit Farming Food Mom Podcast!

Today we're joined by Connie Nightingale, a certified nutritionist, personal trainer and the "Mom" behind The Fit Farming Food Mom Podcast! She shares her amazing story on how she overcame brain fog, weight gain and most importantly, her son's ADHD, only with dietary change! It's amazing how what you put into your body can change every aspect of your life, and Connie's story is a really good example of that. Tune in to find out more!



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ConnieNightingale: I think anybody would see hugeprogress by leaps and bounds just by [00:01:00] starting to eat real food. Andmost real food is not found in the center of the grocery store.

Brent Philbin: Welcome to the Ancestral mind podcast, Connie Nightingale. You'vebeen a podcast or yourself. I can see the microphone, which is awesome. Thelistener is going to have some great audio quality. Thank you.

ConnieNightingale: Yeah, I appreciate you guys having me.It's a, it's a pleasure. So

Brent Philbin: you just popped in, you started giving me the quick version aboutwho you were, but I want to give that to the audience, like tell me what weneed to know about you.

And of course the fish farming.

ConnieNightingale: Okay. Well, do you want the sweet andcondensed version or, or the life story version? There's so much to it. We'lltake

Brent Philbin: either one of those. Let's let's go, let's go. Life story. I feellike I can ask questions along the way and I'd be

ConnieNightingale: keen on that. Awesome. That soundswonderful.

[00:02:00] Well, first of all, I am ConnieNightingale. I am a personal trainer, a health and fitness coach, certifiednutritionist, but I didn't really start out in that space. I've been abodybuilder. I've done lots of things, but I haven't always been the fitfarming food mom. So as you stated, I am a. Podcaster myself.

I own the fit farming food mom podcast,where we talk a lot about health and fitness and mindset and everything abovebiohacking, you name it, but it was really weird how I feel like all of ourstories kind of start from our own personal revelations. And so about fiveyears ago, I had my own personal revelation.

And that was that my son suffers fromsevere ADHD and a couple other neuro problems. And we had tried literally everything and being kind of always he's raised myself in a more holistic way. Imean, my mom was a vegetarian when we were kids. Um, [00:03:00] we ate reallyclean foods. We had a farm with a goat dairy.

We drank a lot of goats milk. We ate. Whatshe thought at the time was super healthy, um, which was still much morehealthy than the standard American diet. What's B be real way. Uh, but yeah, soI always kind of, I had this little piece of health kind of in my, in the backof my mind and being raised on a farm, I was always a super active kid andthings like that.

Uh, we didn't really watch TV at our house.We were always outside. We were homeschooled. So it was pretty, I mean, I justwas raised in a different way than most people, I guess. So, because of that,I've always kind of had this, the mindset or this healthy awareness. Soanyways, they wanted to put my son on all of these medications and all thesethings, and I just really.

Didn't want to go that direction at all.And he got worse and worse. And I had read about like people removing food dyesand things like that, but it just wasn't doing the trick. And so [00:04:00]finally I caved and I let them put him on some medications. And

Brent Philbin: how old was the, uh, during

ConnieNightingale: this process? Nine years old.

I want to say when we put him on his firstmedication, which I was so, so apprehensive to do, but the doctors convincedme. And the, at that point he had been in trouble in school quite a bit, and hecouldn't focus on anything. And I had tried removing dyes and things to noavail. And so I was like, okay, I'm going to do it.

So. Put my son on these medications and itwas like a downhill spiral. He got worse and worse, and then the depressioncame and then they wanted to put him on SSRI and it just was a snowball effectand it was, it was insane. And so anyways, Finally, I was just so desperate todo something for him because he was struggling so bad.

It was hard to not have chaos in our houseall the time, because he was constantly getting into trouble. And as a parent,I felt horrible because I felt [00:05:00] like I couldn't reward him for thingsbecause he was always in trouble. Like, I'd be ready to take him on a trip orgo do something with them. And next thing you know, he would get kicked out ofschool and then we couldn't go do it because I felt like I had to, you know, belike, no, you got in trouble.

We can't do this. So. Anyway, it's veryhard to explain how desperate we were for answers or something to give. Um, butwe were very desperate. And so at that point I saw this, I was reading throughthis health magazine and I saw this seminar on ADHD and autism and neurodeflecting and all these things.

And I was like, okay, I'm totally going tothis. And so my husband and I went to this seminar, we sat in the front row andour mouths like. Dropped open. It was our child completely. They wereexplaining all these things, how food affects them and yeah, all these otherfactors. And at that point they were like, okay, we have another woman that wework with, talks about the gaps [00:06:00] diet, and we would recommend goingto a seminar with her.

So we did. And my husband wasn't able toattend that seminar, but I sat there and Katie was talking about the gaps diet,which is called gut and psychology syndrome and how it affects kids that areseverely autistic and kids that have all sorts of other disorders that are onthe spectrum. And so. At that point.

I was so desperate. I was willing to tryanything. And let me tell you what the gaps diet is. No joke. There is nothingprocessed in it. It's extremely strict bone broth, vegetables, meats, organic,very, very rigid. Um, and it's kind of done in a protocol. I came home and Itold my husband, I was like, we have to do this.

We have to try this. And he's like, are youfreaking kidding me? This seems extremely expensive to buy organic whole foodsand cook from scratch. We don't have time for that. And I mean, at the time weate relatively healthy. But we were eating. [00:07:00] I mean, we never ate outor ate McDonald's or anything like that, but I was under the thinking thatsalads were good for you with ranch dressing.

Um, and that, yeah. And then, and that, um,spaghetti and meatballs was okay. And. You know, you have to have steak andvegetables and a roll or some kind of rice, or it was like, everything had tobe formulated in threes. Right. And everything had bread on the side evenspaghetti. So like you had to have your French friend.

And so we weren't eating out and we weren'teating Doritos and we weren't eating chips and things like that. But we werestill eating foods that were heavily inflammatory. Which I didn't realize atthe time. And so I put my son on this gaps protocol and within two weeks he waslike a different human being and wow.

It was fast. And the other thing I noticedwas that at the time I had been struggling with a lot of things, myself, whichI [00:08:00] was aware of, but my son was more of a priority. Um, I had beenhaving some health problems and I had been. Uh, tested for lupus and a wholebunch of things. And the Western medicine didn't find anything with me.

They're like, well, we don't know what'sgoing on. But I had suffered from brain fog and fatigue and exhaustion all thetime. I had gained a lot of weight, which is really. Odd for us because we'resuper active. We have a farm we're out bicycling. We ride dirt bikes. We havehorses. I mean, I'm an extremely active person yet the weight just kept pilingon and it was just really difficult.

So anyhow, Long story short. I was like,okay, something has got to give here. And we did this diet and I knew that thisdiet was actually maybe going to help me too. I was actually probably a littlebit on the depressed side myself and I like to blame it on the state of our[00:09:00] family at the time, or make excuses for myself and say, no, I'm notreally depressed.

It's normal for everybody to have a downmoment here and there. But within that two weeks of myself, Some doing better.I also noticed that myself, I started to do better. All of a sudden it was kindof like the fog had lifted. And I could think clearly again, I didn't feel likemy limbs weighed a hundred pounds and it was just a really incrediblemetamorphosis that has started to happen.

And pretty soon a month had gone by and acouple of months had gone by and I noticed that my husband and I both were likeshrinking. I lost. I was losing weight at a rapid pace to the point of wherepeople were like asking me if I was okay. If I had an eating disorder, youknow, all sorts of crazy things.

And then also our friends and family werecommenting on my son saying, Hey, what did you guys do to, to him? He would lethim come stay the night. He's just, he's completely changed his attitude andhow he acts. And [00:10:00] so anyways,

Brent Philbin: Was he still on the medication at the time or

ConnieNightingale: no, was at the time, like the firstcouple months, but after six months we started dropping medications.

So it was, it was pretty incredible. Whathappened with that? So we started dropping these medications and we stuck withone of them because we felt like it benefited him a little bit, but we droppedprobably like seven medications within six months. And so anyway, Lo andbehold, not only did he really need it, the rest of us all needed it as well.

And I ended up losing about 60, 80 poundsin six months. Yeah. And that point, um, myself, I started feeling better. ButI remember having this revealing moment where I like, it was like a revelation.I looked in the mirror and I looked at myself and I lost all this weight, but Ihad like, I was like skin and bones.

I had, I had a little bit of muscle, but Ijust didn't look good. And I remember looking at myself and being like, man, Ijust want to look like, [00:11:00] like those girls in the magazines and thingslike that. And it was like I said, there in the mirror and had thisconversation with myself and I was like the only person that's going to go getthis.

Is me. And that next day I was like, I'mwaking up in the morning. I'm I wrote a little note to myself. I signed it, Istuck it on my door and I was like, I am not going to hit the snooze buttonanymore. I'm not going to make excuses for why I couldn't work out because Ihad all these excuses in my head, like, okay, I can't work out or go to the gymbecause I have kids it's too early in the morning.

I can't go after work because then Iwouldn't be spending time with my kids. And it was just constantly like all ofthese excuses, which to some might seem like legit excuses, but really. You gotto just kind of navigate life and find ways to make things work and not findthings to ways to make things not work.

And so at that point I signed a littlenote. I put it on our door and I put [00:12:00] that I was not going to hit thesnooze button and I was going to wake up at 4:00 AM because that was the onlytime I could do it and start doing three sets of squats, three sets of pushups,three sets of crunches every single day, no matter what.

So. I started doing this within a couple ofweeks. I started noticing that my body was like getting more firm and it waskind of weird what happened because I was like, Whoa, I can feel a leg muscle.And I would tell my husband, I'm like, okay, poke this muscle. And it's like,no, you could feel the muscle.

Yeah. And so he was like, okay. Probablygetting sick of me being like, Whoa, look, I have a bicep. And it was just,it's kind of blowing my mind. And, and next thing you know, I'm, I'm buyingkettlebells, I'm buying and dumbbells. I'm adding to this routine every, youknow, couple of weeks and it's getting bigger and bigger.

And then finally I had this like mudroom.In my house that was totally full of junk and stuff. And I got rid of all thejunk and I cleaned it out and I'm surfing on Craigslist and I find a [00:13:00]bench press with like a little leg extension. And that's when everything reallystarted to come into play. I was, um, Working out every single day, I had tostart making things into body parts splits, and I started getting pretty jackedand it was really exciting to watch.

And what I didn't share with you guys isthat when I was about eight years old, and this was something I had nevershared with anybody, um, I snuck to the neighbor's house and we watched theTerminator with Arnold Schwartzenegger in it. And I don't know, I don't knowwhat it was, but seeing him, like, he was like kind of set off

Brent Philbin: naked in the openings,

ConnieNightingale: not that part, but the muscle and justsomething about it.

I was like, I had this crush on Arnold Schwarzenegger,you know, for a year, a really young age. And so I always kind of had this.Thing about bodybuilding. And when I was in high school, I power lifted quite abit, but I never could get that physique I wanted because I didn't [00:14:00]know about diet and nutrition and all these things.

I just lifted weights and I was a big girl.So anyway, I ended up, uh, I ended up having to tell my husband that I had thissecret. Thing about me liking bodybuilding. And I had been following it forquite some time on social media and all these things. And I said, you know,I'm, I'm in really good shape. I think I want to do a bodybuilding show.

And my husband was like, I'm pretty sure healmost fainted. He was like, Oh, crud. You know, like, and I said, it's goingto be kind of expensive, but I'm gonna need to hire a trainer. I may do this.And anyway, lo and behold, I worked out really hard and I stepped on stage forthe first time time in, um, 2018. So it was quite the journey.

It was about three or four years oftraining altogether. Stepped on stage. And, uh, the rest is history. Afterthat, in this process, I've been really [00:15:00] huge into nutrition andtraining and just filling my mind with all this stuff. And, and yeah, no partof that piece to that puzzle was the things that happened with my son.

Like how much food can affect all sorts ofthings in our bodies and how important it is to eat real food and how pseudofood is killing our country. That's a lot

Brent Philbin: to unpack in what happened there. But I think one of the key things,yeah. If you had been focused on the wrong things in the beginning, like if youwould try to do this bodybuilding journey before you helped kind of fix whatwas going on with your son, I think it would have been hard to get to the sameposition because there's a lot of dual pressure they're coming from that end.

If there was a lot more to do to kind ofmaintain that relationship. Then you probably don't. I have the extra time tokind of make the, the body that you made and get into the situation. Yeah. Got,[00:16:00] because you're still figuring out every day, like what can I do tomake my, to make my son better or make him at least live life in a differentway.

And I think that getting off the medicines.Was like a key turning point for what you could do in your future and what hecould do in his future, which is, which is kind of awesome to see how that kindof worked through food.

ConnieNightingale: Right. And it is really crazy how manyfactors were involved with the whole kind of the way everything moved and howit happened because there's multiple different moving parts to this seen.

But the crazy thing is, is I wouldn't havebeen able to get into fitness. Like I had had, I have not changed my diet becauseI would have been fighting this inflammation, train wreck. So knowing. Now,what I didn't know then is how much food affects our system affects our guthealth, affects everything and had, I've tried to get in shape.

Then I wouldn't have lost the [00:17:00]weight. I would have just been in that same plateau that I had been in withcrash dieting. Because I wouldn't have gotten anywhere. And so that was the keyfactor in all of this was changing my food, reducing my inflammation. And thenthat's when the magic for everybody happened in my family.

Brent Philbin: Yeah. That's, there's so much research is coming out on how thatworks and where it goes. I kinda got lucky when I was a kid. Just an anecdotehere that's tangentially related is at about the same age as your son. Theythought that I had ADHD and. Which they're probably right. But they, they putme into the test to check it out.

I happened to test really well on the IQtest. So instead of going any further and saying, get this guy on medication, theyjust said, nah, he's just bored in school. Cause he knows this stuff. Maybe youjust give them a grade. My parents didn't do that to their credit, but theyalso didn't put me on any medication.

So I got lucky, but I think back and onceyou start that process, it's very, very [00:18:00] difficult to. Find a way outof it. Like you got lucky you happen to catch the right article in the rightmagazine, which led you down this path to take you to learn how to reduce thatinflammation in you're selling yourself and ended up with this completelydifferent life.

And I always think back to like thosethreads on your past, and if they had been pulled differently, how things couldhave, how things could have worked out. So. That's an awesome piece of thejourney. So now you're here, you're in this body building space. Did you winthat first competition or place, or I guess I don't know how they work, but

ConnieNightingale: I did not win it.

I would have loved to want it. I did placetop three, so I did really, really well. And that's

Brent Philbin: gotta be. Uh, like a huge story for your first competition. Right?

ConnieNightingale: First

Brent Philbin: competition. I got third place.

ConnieNightingale: Yeah. I didn't expect it at all,honestly. And it was really crazy. I remember it still pretty vividly. I wasjust going there to be proud of myself.

Um, I don't know if you know this, but only1% of people that train to compete in a bodybuilding show actually ever make[00:19:00] it. So it's a really, um, it's very tough to get there and Iremember I'm sorry. Super competitive. I'm crazy competitive person, but I hadto tell myself over and over again, I'm stepping on stage, who cares, whatanybody thinks, who cares, what place I get, I'm doing something that only theelite do.

And so I had to keep reminding myself thatand the journey was so huge towards getting to that moment. I remember tryingto step on stage and almost like crying, cause I was so excited to be on stagecoming onto that stage and having made it and uh, So the top three call-outswas just the, was the highlight, the icing on the cake.

Yeah, I guess. But I remember they kind ofbring you out for comparisons and then they'll bring back the top, like fiveand comparisons. And I still remember. The top three are like in the center ofthe stage when they're comparing all of them. And I remember being in thatcenter of that stage and them switching us around and around.

And then I remember them calling out theplacings at the evening show and it was like, that wasn't me. I was thinking Igot like fifth, cause I [00:20:00] was top five call-outs, you know, andthey're like fifth and fourth. And then they were like, Oh third. And I waslike, wow, Holy cow. I placed in the top of that. And it was kind of mindboggling.

I was like, wow, sweet. I actually did goodtoo. Would you have

Brent Philbin: continued on the journey if you didn't end up placing thereprobably. Right. Or was that one of the things that kind of propelled youforward? Okay. So it wasn't results oriented, but just a bonus

ConnieNightingale: to know. Oh yeah, absolutely. And that'sa great question to ask because, you know, I think a lot of people dobodybuilding shows as a bucket list, but what I learned so much about myselfand the journey, not to mention all the rabbit holes, I started diving down.

Right. Because the minute. The food startedto change my son and change myself. My mind was all the sudden the gears werejust turning and it was like, Holy smokes. I started listening to everypodcast, reading every book on nutrition, getting extremely into health,wellness mindset, all these things. And yeah, I constantly fill my brain withall this stuff, which led down this rabbit [00:21:00] hole of.

Getting my nutrition license, becoming apersonal trainer, all of these things. And I think part of the bodybuildingjourney that appeals to me is it is hard. It is one of the hardest things Ihave ever done. I can't explain how difficult it is, but you're you get intosome dark places you're exhausted.

You're training, super, super hard. You'retrying to balance all this with being a mom on top of it all and having a farm.And I, I remember. Just being in these super dark places. But I seriously thinksometimes when you have to go to these really difficult places, it's thedarkest places where you actually find yourself.

Yeah. I

Brent Philbin: think that's a thread among all of the biggest competitors of timewhen you sit them down and you talk like this, the people who have thatcompetitive spirit, all talk about that, that moment when they were kind oftheir most adversity being. The thing that propels them forward the most.

ConnieNightingale: Absolutely. I, [00:22:00] 100% agreewith that. And I mean, so that was very appealing to me as far as becoming abodybuilder goes. Uh, and I honestly love the stage. I realized that hasdefinitely a place I love to go and I love to compete and I love the people andit's just kind of become my community and something that I highly respect.

And so that being said, though, I don't.Respect, some of the practices people are using to start. Yeah. Yeah. And thisis not just talking about performance enhancing drugs, but that's probably whatyou're thinking. So I'll. But diet, diet, it's diet cardio, all of thesethings. A lot of these coaches, aren't taking these things into considerationand they are literally crashing their clients and causing major metabolicramifications.

And so there are a lot of, a lot of reallyunhealthy practices in the bodybuilding industry and a lot of [00:23:00] reallybad coaches, coaches that. Well, just do whatever it takes to get their clienton stage and get them to their goal. They're not thinking of the longtermhealth of the client.

Brent Philbin: Right. So are you like an outlier when you're in the, when you'retalking with your, your peers in those situations where.

You're you're talking about how your dietis evolved over the years. Are they all still, you know, jamming pancakes ontheir cheat days to load up on carbs? Or is it starting to evolve more towardswhat you're doing?

ConnieNightingale: It's slowly evolving. There are somany. Different opinions on how to get on stage or how to lose weigh.

And I see things from all sorts ofdifferent facets. So I see these coaches that are preaching. If it fits yourmacros, they don't care what it is. You could eat pop tarts all day, but if itfits your macros, you're going to lose weight, calories in calories out. And. Idefinitely don't agree with that. Uh, and myself, I think there's a lot ofthings [00:24:00] going on with people and you have to look at the big picture.

You have to look at their hormones and Isee fitness coach she's on Instagram and Facebook and on all these forums andthings, bashing people that say their hormones are to blame for them beingunable to lose weight. However, Their insulin is a hormone. Thyroid is ahormone. It's not just testosterone, progesterone, estrogen.

It's not, it's not that stuff we're talkingabout. All sorts of other things that come into play when people are attemptingto lose weight. I mean, It's really, really pretty insane. And so a lot of thenyou got the old school, bro science, people that say, if you eat asparagus andrice and chicken, you're going to lose weight or white fish.

And then the, just do hours of cardio.Well, yeah, you're going to lose weight that way. But come on. This is notlongterm sustainable. Number one, number [00:25:00] two. Metabolically speakingmats, just going to trash, everything. It's going to trash your adrenals. It'sgoing to trash your, your endocrine system. There's your hormones, all that.

Stuff's going to be completely in thetoilet. If you're not looking at the big picture. And then you got othercoaches that are just kind of in the middle where they're, they're starting tolearn about health and they're starting to implement it into their practice.There's a couple of guys that I follow really closely that I love because.

That's what they're looking at. They'relooking at everything. They're looking at the big picture and they do haveclients that will fit in things that are potentially not clean, but theythey're managing it in a certain way to make it work. And if they're looking ateverything and I think those coaches are going to be the ones that in thelongterm of things are going to earn themselves a reputation that's going tolast because they're looking.

At not just what's happening now withgetting on stage, but, but what's going to happen longterm with this person,

Brent Philbin: right? Yeah. A lot of this stuff [00:26:00] is not, you're not goingto see the real longterm ramifications until what is the actual longterm likeuntil something is you change somebody's diet. And I've had this discussionwith people before, where they, especially friends who are on in a vegansituation for the health reasons.

They'll tell me, look, there is acorrelation to being vegan and living longer. And, and I'm saying, well, youknow, maybe, but I don't know if that correlation is because you're vegan orbecause you're paying attention to what you eat for the first time ever. Ifyou've never paid attention and you just ate whatever, all the pop charts,everything you wanted, and all of a sudden you started paying attention at all.

You're going to be healthier than you werebefore. So does that mean you are the healthiest you can be? I don't think so. Ithink as you evolve and learn and more science comes out that you become. Moreefficient and you become healthier and you start to learn what your actual bodyneeds versus maybe another body that came from another section of the world orsomething like that.

So I think you're seeing this shift and[00:27:00] you're seeing the evolution in 10 years. If we have another podcastyou come back on, I think we're going to, it'll be a lot different story. Andthe while there may be dogmatic I'm on both sides of say like vegan versus nonvegan. There's going to be a lot less.

Jam the rice and asparagus and make sureyou have your, you know, side of bread.

ConnieNightingale: Yeah, absolutely. I could be wrong,but a lot less donuts post-workout no, I mean, and that's, I think that is kindof hopefully going towards everything, not just bodybuilding, but the medicalprofession in general. I think there are more doctors.

Opening their eyes to the possibilities ofwhat is actually responsible for all of these things like heart disease,diabetes. All of these things across the board, there are more and more doctorsopening their eyes to that. But the big problem with that is also [00:28:00]pharmaceutical companies and big food that are all kind of making it difficultfor doctors to get the proper education.

And because they're the ones that arefunding everything. So. I think a shift is going to happen. It's happeningslowly. It's going to take more. Um, I mean, even with this COVID thing, goingon more crisises like that, to start making them realize how unhealthy oursociety actually is.

Brent Philbin: Right? Yeah. And we're, we're learning more and more about, aboutthese things and the just like big tobacco would want to.

Lobby to keep, to keep cigarettes legal andthe not banned or whatever, that the same thing is going to be true for likethe high sugar foods and stuff like that, because it's easy to see how we gotto high sugar foods. Right. Cause if you are testing your market and you putmore sugar in one thing and less sugar and another, and you're like, Hey, whichone of these two, do you like better?

Obviously the market is going to like theone with more sugar in it better. They're going to say it tastes better andthey're going to eat more of it. [00:29:00] But that doesn't mean that you'redoing something responsible by increasing the amount of sugar in your cereal sothat more people will buy it.

ConnieNightingale: Right.

Absolutely. And you know, one thing we haveto think about, and it's something that also gives me hope is that at one pointI can remember being a kid and seeing the Marlboro man on TV and he was cool.He was smoking cigarettes and that's what everybody did. Right. And, and, andhe gets the same thing. Like I was on my bicycle this morning and a McDonald'sad came on while I was listening to music.

And it was like, are you out looking for atree? You can have our. Amazing frozen Coca Cola and whatever, frozen lemonade.And I was just like, man, that makes me want to puke. It's just sugar with aartificial flavor in it to make you want it crave it. And I was thinking, man,this is cool on this commercial right now.

Just like the Marlboro man was, but maybeit's potentially going to phase out because now you would never catch acigarette commercial. [00:30:00] Right.

Brent Philbin: And consumers are helping too. I mean, I work with Colin at wildfoods and we are creating an entire space where people actually care about whatthey have in their food.

And they're not buying from the bigconglomerates anymore because they want to be educated. They want to know wheretheir food came from, what's in it. And they want to know that they're gettinghigh quality ingredients and stuff like that. That isn't, I wouldn't say it'sfringe, but it's not mainstream yet.

But the more mainstream that becomes. Thequicker, the ads turn away from McDonald's because they're going to realizethat the money isn't there, that's what the population needs to do. The rightnow, the money is in the addiction. The money is in the sugar addiction. Let'sget as much of that as we can, but at some point it will hopefully shift intothe other direction.

The money will no longer be in the sugaraddiction. It will be in the education space and maybe McDonald's even changes.I mean, you've seen a little bit on their menu where they like. Add salads orwhatever in the past, or they try to make it more. [00:31:00] I don't know. Ihaven't been to McDonald's in a long time, so I don't know seasonal stuff onthere, but maybe at some point 10 years, 15 years down the line McDonald's hasan entire whole 30 menu or something crazy.

You know, like I could see that if theconsumers push them in that direction. So the more education, the better.

ConnieNightingale: And I feel that would be a great wayto go about things because you are giving the consumer the choice boys, and,you know, maybe that that option is going to be what makes a major differencein society.

But yeah, it's just insane to see what hashappened with food and the stuff that they are pushing is healthy. I mean, Iwas just talking with the founder of levels health. He's a continuous glucosemonitor place and he was talking about how. Oatmeal spikes his blood sugarworse than anything out there.

But if you Google healthy breakfast, it'sgoing to be one of the first things that shows up. And if you go walkingthrough the grocery [00:32:00] store, you see these, these cereals, that claimto be heart-healthy you see? And it's not it's, it's probably some of the worststuff for your heart out there because it's.

It spikes your blood sugar. And they'restarting to prove that it's more blood sugar that is causing people to haveheart disease than actual the, what they're eating and the fats that they'reeating. They're starting to discover this, but it's really, really difficult towatch people still continue to make the bad choices based on the food labelsand what they're claiming to be healthy.

You're seeing that. In the grocery stores,they all of a sudden realized that people think that honey is healthy. So nowyou see creamer out there. It says sweetened with honey, but then you turnaround the label and you read. And the second ingredient is sugar. And the lastingredient is honey. So they're marketing themselves to be healthy when they'rereally not.

And consumers don't have an understandingof this. And so they're going in, they're buying it according to what it sayson the front, or, you know, another one that I like [00:33:00] to bring up isthings that say now with more protein, will you go look on the back moreprotein? Whatever item it is half the time it's crackers or a cereal.

It says it has two grams of protein, moreprotein than what? So, yeah, exactly. So I think that a really important thing,especially from a parent's standpoint is learning how to read these ingredientlabels and actually flipping the label over. Don't go off of what's on thefront of the bottle, but flip that label over and see, okay.

What you are actually consuming. I like totell my clients, if you are reading a label and you don't know what theingredient is, then you probably shouldn't be eating it.

Brent Philbin: Yup. That's actually a great rule of thumb then in

or whatever the case you're pulling up. Butagain, it makes sense. They're selling the addiction in a different way. It'snot a whole lot different than. You know, the there's like cigarettes[00:34:00] that sell themselves as like natural or something like that. You'rejust dressing up the thing that isn't addiction.

But so many people just aren't even on,they don't even understand that it is. So that's where we need to get into theeducation with consumers and stuff like that. It's just the processed sugar isthe best thing. It's like you mentioned bro science earlier. It's all over theplace. Sometimes it's like people, somebody will tell you that vegan ishealthy.

Somebody will tell you that goingcompletely carnivore and only eating meat is healthy. But they all agree on onething that processed sugar is not

ConnieNightingale: exactly. And then, you know, anotherthing it's not this vegans would disagree, but we are also looking at theseprocessed oils and things like that. Your body doesn't know what to think ofthese processed oils.

There's a lot of highly processed thingsup. You got vegetable oils, canola oils, a lot of the seed oils that are outthere are. So foreign to your body and your cells are constructed of fat. Andso when you consume it, these foreign oils, it's like building a house[00:35:00] with a styrofoam block, your cell can kind of formulate itself andmake itself out of these oils that you're feeding, eating it, but it's notright.

It's it's, it's not what belongs there. Andit's, it's like a, it's like a bad handshake. It just doesn't work. It's notthe right key to the

Brent Philbin: walk. So, if you were to give a listener, like one piece of adviceto following your footsteps, like, let's say, they've heard this, they heardyour story, they got inspired.

And they're like, you know what? I kind ofwant to be a bodybuilder. You know what I'm going to, I'm going to make that agoal 2020 is kind of stinks. So let's get some, let's start that process. Whatwould you tell them to do like step one?

ConnieNightingale: Well, I don't know if becoming abodybuilder is the optimal road to health.

I will say that it is pretty extreme. It'spretty extreme on your mindset and everything. And I think one thing we need tokeep in mind when we're looking to become healthy is that fitness is a pretty[00:36:00] flawed industry in and of itself. Uh, there are too many fitnessprofessionals out there that are judging your progress based on.

How many pounds you can lose. And to me,that's a really flawed. Thought, I think that there's so many things that gointo weight loss and body composition and things like that are different. It'snot all about the weight on the scale. How about our success by how we'refeeling? Um, Everyday when we wake up and how, how we look as far as picturesgo and things like that.

I think that it's a big thing, judge thingsby the weight on the scale. So I think definitely getting rid of the scale is agreat place to start. And then I think as far as starting your own healthjourney, there are a few things that are really important. Eye food isdefinitely a big one. You hear it all the time.

80% food, 20% gym. I would have to agreethat that is [00:37:00] definitely something that's very valid. So I think agreat place to start is by starting to read your ingredient labels, can you seewhat you're eating? Do you know what it is? Like? I know you mentioned Arithatall there. Can you think of a respiratory growing in the wild?

Brent Philbin: I don't have no idea

ConnieNightingale: seeing her. I couldn't picture whatearth retell is if it was to save my life, but I can't. Yeah. Yeah. It lookslike a machine. Uh, but yeah, I can picture a strawberry growing in the wild. Ican, pictures of Keeney growing in the wild. I can picture that cow out there,walking around in the pasture.

I mean, and I'm not a huge advocate ofgrains and seed oils and things like that, but I can picture. An oat growing ina field, I can picture these things. So I think anybody would see huge progressby leaps and bounds just by starting to eat real food. And most real food isnot found in the center of the grocery store.


Brent Philbin: The number one [00:38:00] thing that when I started kind of eatinghealthy for the first time in my life, I realized I didn't even bother going inthose center Isles. I a hundred percent stayed on the outside because there'snothing for me in those center aisles.

ConnieNightingale: Yeah, it's very difficult to findthings that are not full of a bunch of pseudo food in those center aisles.

And then, you know, another thing torealize is by goat, people think they need to go in and just crush some fitnessprogram in order to reach their fitness goals and fitness doesn't necessarilylook like lifting heavy in the gym every day. Now, am I an advocate of liftingweights? Absolutely. Primally.

That's what we did. And I was just talkingwith somebody the other day, about how fortunate that I was, that I was raisedon a farm because being raised on a farm, I was constantly lifting things andmoving around and I developed this body awareness that. I have found somepeople are lacking and I've learned this through becoming a personal trainer.

When I work with people [00:39:00] thathave not lived a very active lifestyle from a young age, they actually don'thave body awareness. They struggle to lift things and move things and like moreergonomical way. Um, they don't understand and how to move. And so I thinkgetting out and moving is really important.

Um, Definitely lifting some kind ofweights. Even if it's body weight, exercise is extremely healthy metabolicallyand it is all so healthy. As far as weight loss goes, prevents osteoporosis.There's a lot of things there. So, um, I think doing some kind of body. Yeah.Weight exercise every day is really important.

Okay. Squats, things that are functional,things that we did back in the ages, you know, when we're out there rollingrocks around pushing things, pulling things, these are all really, reallyimportant things. So getting out there. If you can lift weights by, by allmeans, do, if you're a gym goer, you know, hire a [00:40:00] trainer, havesomeone teach you how to function because it's very, very important to yourlongevity.

Brent Philbin: And so, so body weight exercise is like a, that's an easy place foranybody to start, right? They don't need to buy anything. They don't need to.You know, how many times have you heard people buying a treadmill and then theyjust don't use it or they buy like, whatever, those, those blocks of differentways.

So you can adjust or whatever those arecalled, they buy those. And then, you know, he's power blocks. I think thosewere called. They buy them and they don't use them. They buy a Bowflex and theydon't use, you know, so, yeah. And starting with the body weight, I think is areally awesome first step of where to go with that.

And that's how you started. We go back toyour story by waking up at 4:00 AM and doing bodyweight exercises from there.You became like this monster after that.

ConnieNightingale: Yeah. And that's the thing is you donot have to get crazy. And you know, when you're first starting out less ismore right. And I tell my clients this all the [00:41:00] time.

Uh, if they aren't feeling like going tothe gym that day, and they're just like, I'm going to skip it. I have a onerule on their plans that I have lined out for them. There is one exercise andit's in red. And I said, that is their non-negotiable exercise every singleday. If they're going to work with me.

And I find that. Basically 10 times out of10, they'll go to the gym to do that one exercise. Cause they're not feelingit, but then they get to the gym and they do that exercise. And then they'relike, well, I'm already here. I might as well do the rest of the plan. So Ithink at least at the bare minimum, setting aside one exercise for yourself, itmay be pushups.

Do 10 pushups this day. Or do 20 bodyweight squats on this day, you're going to find that you're like, well, I'malready at it. I might as well do another 20 squats or you might plank for 60seconds and then decide that's getting [00:42:00] too easy. I should add on toit. And I think that the metamorphosis that happens is really wonderful becauseall of a sudden you find you're pushing yourself just a little more and alittle more and.

That's just kinda how we evolve when itcomes to fitness and health is, is your, you know, one day you might walk ahalf a mile the next day you might walk a mile and, and it's, it's, it's reallyfun to learn that about yourself and learn and see yourself progress. That's

Brent Philbin: I think the key in that goes to all of life.

Whether you, if you've got a bunch of workstaring you in the face or your email inbox, guess what? If you do it for fiveminutes, there's a good chance. You're going to do the rest of it. Same thinggoes for, goes, goes for being active. If you tell yourself I'm going to gowalk for five minutes, you're probably going to walk longer than that.

Cause like once you're outside and you'rein the sun and it's fun, like you would rather be out there anyway and you'renot going to drive all the way to the gym, the do 10 pushups and leave. Right?So that's a genius thing to get your clients to [00:43:00] actually do thewhole thing with, without setting this massive goal that they're never going tostick to.

Right. You're telling them, just do thisthing. And then I don't care. I'm not gonna be mad at you as long as you dothat. And then they give you that feedback of, well, I did that and then I didthe rest. So,

ConnieNightingale: yeah. Well, and then, you know,another thing to consider is a lot of people. I, my other big complaint when itcomes to helping people adhere to their plans is time.

They're like. Okay, I'll go to the gymlater. Or I ran out of time to go to the gym cause I was getting home late fromwork or whatever it is. But if you were to have set up an appointment with yourdoctor or a coffee date with one of your friends and it was in your phone, youwould more than likely go to that.

So maybe that requires that time to get tothe gym or that time. And I'm not saying you gotta get to the gym, you can dothese things at home, but set that time. Ahead of time in your schedule, put itin your phone, put it in your calendar, write it down. This is your [00:44:00]appointment with yourself to take 20 minutes and start doing those body weightsquats or those pushups.

Brent Philbin: That is some of the most actionable advice we've gotten when I'veasked that question of one thing to do that is that's all perfect information.So if we want more of that advice, if we want to get more into your mind, whatis your like primary. Social media format. Is it the podcast or do youcommunicate more on Instagram or where would you go?

ConnieNightingale: People are more than welcome to findme on Instagram at Connie B Gany, which is C O N N I E B E G O N N I E a.That's just a nickname. I got a long time ago and I can't change it. So you'restuck with that. I don't have a massive Instagram following as I used to shutmy Instagram off. Every time I was prepping for a bodybuilding show.

So I have kind of neglected my Instagram,but if you find me on there, you're more than welcome to follow me and send mea message. I'd be happy to answer any questions. Always. I honestly [00:45:00]am a true lover of health and fitness. So if you shoot me a DM. I'm not goingto ignore you. So another great place to find me is my own podcast, which iscalled the fish farming food mom.

It's available on every podcast platform,as far as I know, and I have tons of amazing health and fitness professionalson there. And we talk about all things, health and fitness and all of the abovelife. If family, you name it. So, uh, it's a great podcast and, um, I have alot of wonderful listeners.

Brent Philbin: Awesome. Okay. So those are the two primary places you're gonna,you're gonna find on Instagram. You're gonna find the podcast. If you wantthose links, of course, you can get them in our show notes. You can get them onthe ancestral line.com, all that stuff. So what's some parting thoughts you canleave with.

Actually, wait, I forgot to ask you. What'syour favorite cut of meat? I like to ask everybody this,

ConnieNightingale: Oh boy, my favorite. I mean, I loveprime rib. Like we're a huge prime rib fans around our house. And any time theholidays come around, we buy a whole bunch of extra and we [00:46:00] keep itin our freezer and we smoke our meat and then we keep it in, in theirrefrigerator and just.

Steak and eggs every morning, things likethat. But you know, I've spent time in the carnivores space, myself. I'm a hugefan of eating meat. And so I basically don't complain. I'm a huge red meat fan.Awesome.

Brent Philbin: Alright, so, so it's the smoked prime rib. That's not everybody hasa smoker. That's not fair.

ConnieNightingale: I know, but let me tell you one thing.

This is, if anybody has trouble mealprepping, especially in the summertime, when it gets extremely hot out and youdon't want to be cooking in your house. Those smokers are an incredible thing.We literally cook a whole week's worth of food on there, and then we just pullit out of the fridge all week long and it is one great way to save time andstill enjoy wonderful food.

Brent Philbin: Alright, so tip number two, go buy a smoker, have somewhere to putit. You make a week worth of amazing

Connie Nightingale:food at a time. It's

Brent Philbin: like a slow cooker, but you know, better.

[00:47:00] ConnieNightingale: Yeah.

Brent Philbin: Alright, awesome. So thanks for coming on the show. And we've gotall the parting words wrapped up. Anything you want to leave us with?

ConnieNightingale: No, no.

Uh, the one thing I didn't say is I do havea website it's Connie nightingale.com. I'm usually really good about posting onthe blog. There, recipes, fitness mindset, all sorts of good things there too.And you know, if anybody is just starting with their journey and they don'tknow where to start, there's some great pearls of wisdom there for them.


Brent Philbin: Alright. So listeners go there and check it out and look forward to.Hopefully in the future, we'll have you back on the show to catch up in a fewmonths and see how things have been going.

ConnieNightingale: All right. I love that. Thank you somuch.

Brent Philbin: All right. Thanks for being on, please. Always remember that themembers.

Of the answer for mine. Podcasts are not infact medical professionals. They're not doctors, they're not nutritionists.They are simply providing the entertainment for you to do your own research andto [00:48:00] entertain yourselves. So please consult a physician beforechanging your diet. Not everything works for everybody and make sure you alwaysdo your own research on everything you hear on this show and outside.

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